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Thursday, June 16, 2005

Pickoff Moves

Baseball Digest Daily Interview With Roy Smith

Joe Hamrahi, proprietor of Baseball Digest Daily, wrote me yesterday about an interview he recently had with Dodgers Vice President of Scouting and Player Development Roy Smith. Sample:

On the differences between the Pirates (his old organization) and the Dodgers:

“It was different, sure. But not nearly as different as you’d think it would be. Guys don’t get to high ranking positions within an organization without knowing what they’re doing.”
Yet, he can't stay away from the Money(ball) quote:
“So what influence has Billy Beane had on the way you scout and assess talent?” I asked. If Roy wasn’t such a nice guy, he might have reached over and strangled me. Lucky for me! Still, I got the sense that he was asked this question 999,999 times, and I was lucky caller 1 million! Roy handled the question very professionally despite the tension I sensed in the air. “Billy and I are good friends. We believe in a lot of the same ideas and theories.

Royals 3, Dodgers 1

You can accept the Royals as a badly underachieving team for a bit; it happens, but my problem is that this isn't a team with a Carlos Beltran on it anymore. If they're underachieving, it's only by a couple dozen runs or less. (If it makes you feel better, Warning Track Power is in a similar state of disbelief.) The Dodgers, though, continue to prove to me that they are a bad team. With Gagné gone to the DL, possibly to end his season, possibly to end his career as a Dodger, things just keep looking bleaker. FJT talks about golf. The real problem this team has is too many guys not hitting all at once, and too many guys letting opposition pitchers get strikeouts or easy ground outs with runners in scoring position.

Recap

Frank Robinson, Classless Jerk

Frank Robinson finally admits his real purpose in the Pine Glove Game:
"He was going to try to intimidate me," Robinson said. "If people let me intimidate them, I'll intimidate them. But I'm not going to let them intimidate me. I'm the intimidator."
-- Daily News
I will laugh at every Nationals loss from now on. Every game they sink in the standings will give me joy. I was naive enough to think this was a good story coming into the series. No more.

We Could Be Heroes: Minor League Notes


Comments:
Mathis has actually had to heat up to get to that point.
 
Just checking here -- will you allow any defense or opposing viewpoint about Frank Robinson, or do you intend to delete any comment that challenges your assertion of him being a "classless jerk" regardless of how polite it is?
 
I intend to delete any personal comment aimed at me or at Angels fans in general, or from jerks who just want to stir up trouble. Yesterday, for instance, I got numerous adolescent remarks about having sex with the Rally Monkey, that Gene Autry's horse was gay, just an amazing parade of crap.

Since Tuesday, I've gotten several e-mails from various and sundry people who have informed me that Yuda and his little gang are troublemaking know-it-alls who have been banished from, among other places, Will Carroll's and Rich Lederer's blogs. I know both those guys and it takes a lot to get them riled to that point. If you want to defend Robinson, be my guest. Attacking me or stupid provocations will get your comment deleted on sight.
 
Donnelly said using pine tar was foremost a safety issue, noting it helps him grip on the ball and makes it less likely he'd "hit a hitter in the neck.

Use the rosin bag then ya doof-us.
 
I'm going to keep re-peating this because nobody -- well, nobody commenting from the Nats side of things, anyway -- seems to comprehend it: Nobody's claiming Donnelly was innocent here.
 
Yuda, you've been banished for making adolescent, personal attacks. I'm leaving this one up because I have something to actually add to it: had you considered the possibility that my information might be wrong? But it's hard to know, given your childish behavior. I have never, until you came here, deleted any posts save for obvious spam. That includes a lot of stuff I don't agree with. But quite frankly, given the huge volume of sheer garbage I've received here over the last three days, accounts of your being banished ring absolutely true.
 
I'm just curious to know how wearing those "fresh-from-the-eye-dilation" style sunglasses fit into the intimidation. Maybe for their next series, he can sport orthodontic headgear and really look badass.

Anyway, Rob, get with the program. The way it works is, you're ALLOWED to demand the press not ask you certain questions about particular ballplayers; but if you publish a blog, you HAVE to allow anyone to say whatever they want.
 
Sean -- no kidding.
 
Nobody's claiming Donnelly was innocent here.

ok, fine. though show me where scioscia admits it.

but i still take issue with:

Frank Robinson, Classless Jerk

i think what riles you and other angels' fans is that f-rob got under the skin of scioscia and maybe gave his troops a lift when it was required.

you can question f-rob's bunting fetish and some of his man-management, but if he can play mind games with the other side, and win, i'd sure want him in my dugout.

Classless Jerk?

what about a manager who condones cheating? or beaning?
 
no monkey business from me either
 
Defnitely. This weekend, I'm an Angels fan.
 
Yes, classless jerk. His whole point was to intimidate. Cluephone ringing for Frank: leave that stuff to your pitchers.
 
"Nobody's claiming Donnelly was innocent here.

ok, fine. though show me where scioscia admits it."


Wow, I wasn't aware that Mike Scioscia commented on this blog! That quite a coup Rob!

"Classless Jerk?

what about a manager who condones cheating? or beaning?"


What about the manager, who after being told his own medicine would be used against him, goes off? What about the manager, who after having his own pitcher caught with an illegal glove an inning later, goes after the opposing manager? What about the manager who refuses to go out for the lineups, sending a subordinate instead? What about the manager who makes patently false accusations against several other players, offering no evidence to back them up?

B – U – S - H
 
Yes, classless jerk. His whole point was to intimidate. Cluephone ringing for Frank: leave that stuff to your pitchers.

since when did intimidation (i.e. mind games)=classless?

Wow, I wasn't aware that Mike Scioscia commented on this blog! That quite a coup Rob!

just asking for a published source where mike s condemned his pitcher using an illegal substance. i'm sure he did, but i've yet to find it.

What about the manager who refuses to go out for the lineups, sending a subordinate instead?

as has been pointed out elsewhere f-rob only presents the lineup card in game 1 of a series. plenty of other managers don't handover line-up cards.

What about the manager who makes patently false accusations against several other players, offering no evidence to back them up?

i've only seen the sandpaper allegation
 
Richard, you're way overreacting. Frank thought that Scioscia was offensive not in what was said, but in how it was said. Disagree on Frank's perception of how Scioscia's remark was said if you like, but who here hasn't gotten angry at someone's tone of voice? I think that's a human response.
 
So you're accusing me of overreacting, while admitting that my statement about Robinson overreacting was accurate. That’s quite a tight-rope you’re walking.
 
I never said Robinson overreacted. I either miswrote or you misread. I'm arguing that Frank reacted to the tone of Scioscia's statement, and that's what made him mad. I contend that's a typical human response, right or wrong.
 
It's bleak, man. Nothing is bleaker than golf. :-)
 

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