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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 |
Pickoff Moves
Front Office Moves
- Jim Tracy was hired by the Pirates as their manager.
- Phillies GM Ed Wade was fired after eight seasons in the chair.
- Jim Beattie, executive VP of the Orioles, won't be back in 2006. His exit is supposed to presage a wider purge.
- Not exactly news, but Mel Stottlemyre isn't sure if he'll return in 2006. 'Twas ever thus since the Yanks' lost their last bid for a title.
A-Rod's Public Whipping
The flensing knives are out, and A-Rod's getting sliced and diced every which way. Unlike the situation in Texas, A-Rod can't be blamed for mangling the team's hopes of contending, because the Yankees had Texas pay an appreciable part of his salary, not to mention the simply enormous gap between the Yankees' payroll and everyone else's. But the Curse of A-Rod -- the idea that no team with A-Rod on it will win the World Series -- continues anon, his blue lips a kiss of death to whatever team draws him for his insane offensive prowess. $200 million in payroll cannot buy the one thing Steinbrenner covets: a guarantee.More ALDS Game 5 Notes
- The top of the order went a collective 4-14 yesterday, an improvement but hardly a healthy one, with Vlad being the biggest gainer, 2-4. He still hasn't had an RBI in the series, and you have to wonder how long the Angels can keep winning before the lack of production at the top of their order catches up to them.
- Call it the 1988 Syndrome: the Dodgers learned nothing from their 1988 triumph, assuming Tommy Lasorda could egg on any group of marginally talented players into the World Series. It didn't work that way, of course, but it's an observation that Paul DePodesta made about the late-90's Indians organization. Flush with success, they had no reason to examine their methods closely, and eventually stumbled. The same thing could be happening to the Angels now: failing to keep talented young relievers (when relievers are scarce), continuing to allow their veterans and/or Mike's preference for veterans keep them at positions they're no longer valuable at (Anderson in left instead of DHing, Erstad instead of Kotchman at first), blocking positions where they're flush with talent in the minors (shortstop most notably). It's conceivable that losing in the first round would be healthier for the organization than winning the ALDS would have been, simply because it would have caused more soul-searching.
- The Angels will have some tough offseason choices to make: Erstad or Kotchman? Molina or Mathis? Anderson or Rivera? Re-sign Byrd? Sign Washburn for probably too many dollars and years, or let him walk and go without a lefty in the rotation?
- Update: Speaking of the Dodgers, I have to wonder whether the Angels advancing to the ALCS will have any affect on that team. The pressure for McCourt and DePodesta to do something stupid increases incrementally, especially if the Angels go to the World Series again. But perhaps, as Rich and I discussed last night, the right thing to do is to trade Kent and Gagné for some A-grade prospects. There is simply no conceivable 2006 Dodgers squad capable of knocking out the likes of the Cardinals. Dodger fans can stomach a year of rebuilding, so long as they know there's a plan.
- Last night, Helen brought up the favor that Sammy Sosa did the Cubs. When their then-marquee player was negotiating his contract (in 1999, I believe), he told the Cubs they had to commit to improving or he would walk. That was the kick in the posterior they needed, and the Cubs did indeed start down that path. Whether the Angels' recent successes are a similar boot for the Dodgers, I can't say; certainly, the Cubs' success provided some impetus for the Chisox also, but then there's the Mets and their dysfunctional relationship to the Yankees, and the Angels weren't made any better having been in town during all those hot Dodger teams of the late 70's and early 80's.
- A roundup bullet: Jon Weisman, Matt Welch, Seitz, Pearly Gates liveblog, Chronicles, Sean (cheep, cheep), the Rev, and even Maya. On the Yankee side of things, Bronx Banter; no reaction from my other favorite Yankees-ish blogger, Jay Jaffe, but I'm sure he'll get to it.
- And to answer the inevitable question: yes, of course I think they'll lose the ALCS. No rest, minus Colon, Washburn now must pitch Wednesday lest they go to a three man rotation, and so on.
- Rich Lederer and Bryan Smith have their ALCS preview up, and a nice plug for me and Pearly Gates as well.
- Update 2: Baseball Prospectus gives the Angels a 45% chance of winning the ALCS. Considering how shorthanded they are in the pitching department, that's saying a lot, but whether it takes that into consideration, I don't know. It is a big improvement, however, on their estimate going into the series on October 4 that the Angels had a 28% chance of winning the ALCS. (They were given a 55% chance of winning the ALDS upon entry.) At this point, BPro's crystal ball foresees only a 28% chance of the team winning it all, and I'm okay with that; the Cards are a scary, scary 1-5, injured or not.
- Jay Jaffe, as expected, rings in at Baseball Prospectus with an ALCS preview, predicting the Chisox in six.
Comments:
I do not like the idea of giving these young guys the job. Look at what happened with Dallas McPherson.
But why talk about this? It is White Sox-hunting season.
But why talk about this? It is White Sox-hunting season.
Look at what happened with Dallas McPherson.
And what did happen with him? He didn't show up for the first half, and he got injured the second. He's got time, but it's limited to 2006. After that, Brandon Wood.
I'm amazed you want to trade the Dodgers' superstars for more prospects. You don't even like the prospects we already have!
I have said the Dodgers farm system is overrated because it hasn't produced a working Dodger. That has changed, and will change, but my main objection is and has been that the supposedly fecund system inevitably produces guys who don't produce. If that changes, I'll change my mind.
And what did happen with him? He didn't show up for the first half, and he got injured the second. He's got time, but it's limited to 2006. After that, Brandon Wood.
I'm amazed you want to trade the Dodgers' superstars for more prospects. You don't even like the prospects we already have!
I have said the Dodgers farm system is overrated because it hasn't produced a working Dodger. That has changed, and will change, but my main objection is and has been that the supposedly fecund system inevitably produces guys who don't produce. If that changes, I'll change my mind.
Trading Kent & Gagne would pretty much mean that their plan of rebuilding while winning was scrapped. If they were going to rebuild from scratch, they would've done it last year when they had Beltre etc. as trade bait.
And what did happen with him? He didn't show up for the first half, and he got injured the second.
Well, this isn't really true, Rob. He got injured in the first half. Missed most of spring training and the first couple weeks of the season. Tried to play through it, and no longer could. He was never really right this season.
Well, this isn't really true, Rob. He got injured in the first half. Missed most of spring training and the first couple weeks of the season. Tried to play through it, and no longer could. He was never really right this season.
You're right on the chronology, Seitz, but I'm not sure it matters. He was sold as healthy but he wasn't -- okay, so we grant him another exception. But next year he'll be 26. Time to start hitting or else.
Rob;
I have on a few occasions commented on your remarks and I have pretty much enjoyed your blog up to this point. This will most likely be my last time as I have really tired of the Dodger organization and pretty much everything associated with it.
I do have to say that I find your comment about Tracy(jerk), offensive.
First of all there is absolutely no reason to resort to name calling. We may have questioned some of his moves but since when don't second guessers do that? Just because Weisman took up the cause of Hee Sop Choi, you and the rest of the Dodger Thoughts clones rallied to the cause. If Tracy and the rest of the knowledgeable baseball people feel that Choi is a liability on the field as an everyday player, that is pretty much good enough for me.
Finally, Jim Colborn is one of the most respected people I know and is of the highest integrity. He has the utmost respect for Tracy as a baseball man but even more importantly, as a person and will gladly go to Pittsburgh with him. That is reason enough not to call him "jerk".
I wish you and the rest of the Dodger Talk idiots the best of luck in the pathetic, going nowhere NL West.
Rick
I have on a few occasions commented on your remarks and I have pretty much enjoyed your blog up to this point. This will most likely be my last time as I have really tired of the Dodger organization and pretty much everything associated with it.
I do have to say that I find your comment about Tracy(jerk), offensive.
First of all there is absolutely no reason to resort to name calling. We may have questioned some of his moves but since when don't second guessers do that? Just because Weisman took up the cause of Hee Sop Choi, you and the rest of the Dodger Thoughts clones rallied to the cause. If Tracy and the rest of the knowledgeable baseball people feel that Choi is a liability on the field as an everyday player, that is pretty much good enough for me.
Finally, Jim Colborn is one of the most respected people I know and is of the highest integrity. He has the utmost respect for Tracy as a baseball man but even more importantly, as a person and will gladly go to Pittsburgh with him. That is reason enough not to call him "jerk".
I wish you and the rest of the Dodger Talk idiots the best of luck in the pathetic, going nowhere NL West.
Rick
The Tracy vs. Depo thing is kinda like the Shaq/Phil Jackson vs. Kobe Bryant debate we Laker folk have. People can't take sides without slinging mud at the other. Gotta love Southern California, eh? ;)
FWIW, I feel bad for both Tracy and Depo, because their scenario is no different than any major shakeup in management in any business. Tracy obviously was angry and frustrated. But, probably so was Depo, all year long, with Tracy's unwillingness to abide.
FWIW, I feel bad for both Tracy and Depo, because their scenario is no different than any major shakeup in management in any business. Tracy obviously was angry and frustrated. But, probably so was Depo, all year long, with Tracy's unwillingness to abide.
Rick --
I do have to say that I find your comment about Tracy(jerk), offensive.
Tracy's insubordination pulled me over the line. Maybe the name-calling was uncalled for. It's not something I engage in often, that's for sure.
If Tracy and the rest of the knowledgeable baseball people feel that Choi is a liability on the field as an everyday player, that is pretty much good enough for me.
Or else they're being obstructionists who refuse to see that Choi's actual accomplishments are highly useful. Tracy's excuse machine was simply staggering; it's too bad Fire Jim Tracy is no longer up.
I wish you and the rest of the Dodger Talk idiots the best of luck in the pathetic, going nowhere NL West.
Dodger Talk? Have you ever heard my voice on that show?
I do have to say that I find your comment about Tracy(jerk), offensive.
Tracy's insubordination pulled me over the line. Maybe the name-calling was uncalled for. It's not something I engage in often, that's for sure.
If Tracy and the rest of the knowledgeable baseball people feel that Choi is a liability on the field as an everyday player, that is pretty much good enough for me.
Or else they're being obstructionists who refuse to see that Choi's actual accomplishments are highly useful. Tracy's excuse machine was simply staggering; it's too bad Fire Jim Tracy is no longer up.
I wish you and the rest of the Dodger Talk idiots the best of luck in the pathetic, going nowhere NL West.
Dodger Talk? Have you ever heard my voice on that show?
<< Tracy's insubordination pulled me over the line. Maybe the name-calling was uncalled for. >>
To be fair, it's still the manager's call how they use whomever the GM gives him. I think Tracy without a doubt was using the players that was incompatible with what Depo envisioned. But I don't think we can say with definitive proof that Tracy was outright thumbing his nose at the GM. Tracy says some outrageous stuff after he was fired. Well, yeah, most people say crap about their employer after they've gotten fired.
It's the same thing about Tracy being a jerk or whatever. Tracy might have caused or encouraged problems within the clubhouse or helped flame players against management. But I'm not sure if the reports really validated that either.
I guess to me, someone who was an outright jerk would be a guy like Phil Jackson, who wrote a tell-all book, used media sources to leak rumors against one star, and absolved himself of his unwillingness to teach defense to what was arguably the most talented lineup ever in Lakers history. Of course, he's actually a good coach, but definitely a jerk.
To be fair, it's still the manager's call how they use whomever the GM gives him. I think Tracy without a doubt was using the players that was incompatible with what Depo envisioned. But I don't think we can say with definitive proof that Tracy was outright thumbing his nose at the GM. Tracy says some outrageous stuff after he was fired. Well, yeah, most people say crap about their employer after they've gotten fired.
It's the same thing about Tracy being a jerk or whatever. Tracy might have caused or encouraged problems within the clubhouse or helped flame players against management. But I'm not sure if the reports really validated that either.
I guess to me, someone who was an outright jerk would be a guy like Phil Jackson, who wrote a tell-all book, used media sources to leak rumors against one star, and absolved himself of his unwillingness to teach defense to what was arguably the most talented lineup ever in Lakers history. Of course, he's actually a good coach, but definitely a jerk.
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