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Sunday, August 08, 2004 |
Quote, Unquote
In the San Francisco Chronicle, regarding the nature of winning:
"I talked to Paul this morning," Beane said in a Friday interview, "and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
Comments:
Of course, with Beane's postseason success how could he be wrong on what it takes to build a champion?
# posted by 
: 8/08/2004 10:17:00 AM
: 8/08/2004 10:17:00 AM
Let's see... Dodgers leaving runners on base... check. Lo Duca getting clutch hits for the Fish... check. Know-it-all intellectuals still without a clue... check. So what else is new?
# posted by : 8/08/2004 04:51:00 PM
: 8/08/2004 04:51:00 PM
Hey Anon:
I wouldn't say that we're "know-it-all intellectuals still without a clue" (and not just because it's atrocious grammar). I mean, all those ‘know-it-alls without a clue’ have done is collect a 392-255 over the past four years with the Oakland A’s. I’d say they have a pretty good clue about how to win ballgames.
You seem very hostile towards those who don’t share your view of the baseball world. Perhaps you should calm down, take a deep breath, and then try to reason out some kind of counter argument other than “you’re stoopid!” People might take you more seriously that way.
I wouldn't say that we're "know-it-all intellectuals still without a clue" (and not just because it's atrocious grammar). I mean, all those ‘know-it-alls without a clue’ have done is collect a 392-255 over the past four years with the Oakland A’s. I’d say they have a pretty good clue about how to win ballgames.
You seem very hostile towards those who don’t share your view of the baseball world. Perhaps you should calm down, take a deep breath, and then try to reason out some kind of counter argument other than “you’re stoopid!” People might take you more seriously that way.
I was the first anon, but not the second. This finally got me to register with a name.
Beane has never constructed a team that is successful in the playoffs, therefore, his idea that character, leadership, chemistry and other intangibles are unnecessary for success in winning in the playoffs doesn't carry a lot of credibility with me.
Beane has never constructed a team that is successful in the playoffs, therefore, his idea that character, leadership, chemistry and other intangibles are unnecessary for success in winning in the playoffs doesn't carry a lot of credibility with me.
I was raised with Dodgers baseball (over 40 years), I had a thought and felt like sharing. Maybe it's because we're fed the countless highlights from the sports shows but if I'm remembering correctly (I'm sure a "stat-head" can confirm or deny)the Dodgers have always left a lot of men on base (or at least seemed to). Real baseball isn't like the movies or highlight films (yes, of course Gibson's HR is an exception) and men get left on base. We need to relax. If Lo Duca is getting clutch hits with the Marlins, that doesn't mean that he'd be getting the same hits with the Dodgers. If that kind of reasoning was true, then when good players become Dodgers, they wouldn't slump (doesn't that always seem to be the case? ;) ). Next step, average Dodgers (when traded) wouldn't become stars. I've said enough, and babbled more than I should've. I miss Lo Duca and Roberts but I'm still a Dodgers fan (it's the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back). Thanks for letting me vent.
Mr. Anon,
As one who didn't want to see LoDuca go, more or less being in the same line of thinking as Dave above me, I have to say that in this time that I have started particpating in the bloggings of Jon and Rob, I feel I have learned a lot more about baseball then I ever did and I have been a fan my entire 45 years. (My mon attended games at the Coliseum when she was preganant with me.) That fact doesn't make me any smarter, but I do think it at least gives me a right to state an opinion.
For a long, long time I have thought that there was just too much reading of the stats and not enough feeling for the more personal stuff. Boy, I now know I was wrong! Not totally wrong, but I have come to know that one has to look at this stuff from the center--both statistically and from a fan-like perspective. This is why my gut instinct says that trading LoDuca was not a good idea, but getting Brad Penny and Heep Seop Choi was, and that somewhere in the middle there has to be a positive for both teams.
You may not know this, but right now LoDuca is out of the Marlins line-up because of being hit by a pitch while catching, and its his knuckle is all black and blue. That isn't a good sign and would no doubt have an affect on his batting when he comes back in the next day or two.
Would this have an affect on him if he was still with the Dodgers? We don't know and never will, and just as freak of an injury as Penny's was, sometimes these things look far worse then they really are.
But the point is that insults and "I told you so's" are pretty easy to make. So is speculation of the trades after the fact. However, I'm learning that regardless of what I think, the people posting here that read the stats, live by them and can properly rely on their accuracy have a knoweldge of the Game that far exceeds those of the average fan and I'm greatful for them helping me become a more intuitive fan.
Simply put, Thanks Guys! You analyze baseball the way I analyze golf courses, and to me its unique, fresh and more then anything--interesting!
As one who didn't want to see LoDuca go, more or less being in the same line of thinking as Dave above me, I have to say that in this time that I have started particpating in the bloggings of Jon and Rob, I feel I have learned a lot more about baseball then I ever did and I have been a fan my entire 45 years. (My mon attended games at the Coliseum when she was preganant with me.) That fact doesn't make me any smarter, but I do think it at least gives me a right to state an opinion.
For a long, long time I have thought that there was just too much reading of the stats and not enough feeling for the more personal stuff. Boy, I now know I was wrong! Not totally wrong, but I have come to know that one has to look at this stuff from the center--both statistically and from a fan-like perspective. This is why my gut instinct says that trading LoDuca was not a good idea, but getting Brad Penny and Heep Seop Choi was, and that somewhere in the middle there has to be a positive for both teams.
You may not know this, but right now LoDuca is out of the Marlins line-up because of being hit by a pitch while catching, and its his knuckle is all black and blue. That isn't a good sign and would no doubt have an affect on his batting when he comes back in the next day or two.
Would this have an affect on him if he was still with the Dodgers? We don't know and never will, and just as freak of an injury as Penny's was, sometimes these things look far worse then they really are.
But the point is that insults and "I told you so's" are pretty easy to make. So is speculation of the trades after the fact. However, I'm learning that regardless of what I think, the people posting here that read the stats, live by them and can properly rely on their accuracy have a knoweldge of the Game that far exceeds those of the average fan and I'm greatful for them helping me become a more intuitive fan.
Simply put, Thanks Guys! You analyze baseball the way I analyze golf courses, and to me its unique, fresh and more then anything--interesting!
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